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Valero seeking to sell California refineries-report

Reuters -- Valero spokesman Bill Day declined comment on the issue. However, he noted that Valero Chief Executive Bill Klesse told analysts nearly a year ago that the company was considering options for the two plants in light of a 2006 California law that requires emissions to match 1990 levels by 2020, which could cost hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades to achieve.

During Valero's third-quarter 2011 conference call, an analyst asked if long-term viability of Valero's California refineries could be in question given the looming regulations.

"We're looking at our options," Klesse replied.


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Submitted Oct 20, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:43:08 AM

gonna see more of this as Pig Oil reaps record profits and no maintenance is being done.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2012 4:07:18 AM

that's what happens when you don't put money into upkeep.
nsdp
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 2:58:25 PM

Obviously you people know nothing about Valero's balance sheet or you would know they couldn't afford to sell them in today's market since they would be heavily penalized for not having done anything other than waste a bunch of money on Prop 23 to try to solve the problem. Sitting there doing nothing for 6 years has come home to roost. Closing them would cost 4 or 5 times as much because of the cleanup required. Management made a bad bet and now has to pay for it. Exxon Shell and Chevron had no problem getting ready. Tesoro is in a bind as well.
EconomiserAZ
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:33:21 AM

I felt compelled to go to press on this one. But contributor 'bshort' just nailed it. Well done, mate!.

You know for the longest time I have been going to buy myself a nice gift. Something refined. Maybe and oil well?
bsnort
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:30:45 AM

You wonder why people/businesses pack up and leave the left coast. Only ones moving in are the freeloaders/illegal immigrants. What is cali gonna do when it runs out of other people's money?
daequitz
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 4:43:52 AM

I'll buy it. How much?
NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 12:02:01 AM

.
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Kinda like a Hugo thing...
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 11:43:45 PM

On Oct 20, 2012 11:08:14 PM, RAE344 wrote:

>This would devastate the chances of the president
>winning California in his re-election bid.

It's not going to be an issue, the possibility is out there but it will probably be years before anything happens.

>I would not be surprised if he borrowed some more
>money from our future generation and federalized
>those refineries.

I would be very surprised if Obama nationalized anything relating to the oil industry.

He has enough of a mess with Government Motors and the Post Office already.

Ahking
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 11:40:10 PM

talks.
Melinda205
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 11:29:46 PM

Okay
Number43
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:25:33 PM

More regulation will mean higher cost to drivers no matter who owns them.
Number43
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:24:26 PM

Gas prices will go higher in Ca.( and stay high).
hotrod_brother
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:16:33 PM

Californication !!!
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:16:17 PM

Far Out.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:10:24 PM

if oil industry were looking better in the future, why would thy sell ?
rxman1
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:09:00 PM

What? What? More regulations! Is this acway of creating more jobs.?
snky2k
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:08:49 PM

Be careful, California lawmakers.
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:08:19 PM

Get it done!
RAE344
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:08:14 PM

This would devastate the chances of the president winning California in his re-election bid. I would not be surprised if he borrowed some more money from our future generation and federalized those refineries.
1fulltank
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:08:09 PM

I'm a little short this week.
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:07:16 PM

I wonder if Valero is looking for serious?
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:06:16 PM

I hope it spurs more refineries to be built.
vibdata
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:06:05 PM

So you are saying, that with all the increased regulations and improvements over the past 20 years, that the emissions in 2020 must match those of long ago? I do not understand this at all. I thought there were IMRPOVEMENTS year to year all the time?

How can the emissions in 2020 match those of 1990 unless they get much WORSE?

This is ridiculous.
shores4now
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:05:14 PM

Ok
ManOfLeisureII
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Tough to make a buck in Kal-eye-four-nye-yea.
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Hey, Hey! Hey!
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:03:43 PM

Old news.
bowler360
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:02:01 PM

money maker. maybe i'll buy one.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:57:49 PM

ok
Cableman66
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:57:07 PM

Self inflict wounds at the pump. Sorry guys better stop smoking the weed or start cause looks like your pump price is of your own doing.
30mpg80
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:56:17 PM

When you have options, they will be considered, duh!
tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:53:56 PM

More California regs. killing business and consumers :(
clermont40miles
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Can't blame ANY business for leaving the Socialist state of Caleefornia.

Adios.
kbierley
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:53:17 PM

Sell them to who?
abacus44
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:53:04 PM

California gets what it votes for.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:52:12 PM

Any takers out there? Wanna be a oil tycoon?
smokay
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:51:27 PM

Wow
raj_fl
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:47:41 PM

nice
raj_fl
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:47:26 PM

well u know what who ever buys the refinery will have to upgrade
Dodge_Me
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:47:26 PM

Hmm
nickatnite
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:46:51 PM

Nice
Daveyfudd
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:45:30 PM

Whatever a man sows (in this case, a state), he (California) is going to reap!

California has beautiful weather but that's about it.
colaguy
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:45:08 PM

ok
Jeeputtputt
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:43:28 PM

what?
livedream
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:43:11 PM

Good point, us4usa!

California residents should all switch to electric cars.

No more emissions. No more gas gouging at the pumps!
OOXXFF
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:41:31 PM

Not good news.
munch252
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:37:19 PM

I'll bu yit
us4usa
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:35:37 PM

Hey GM should buy them, then shut them down gas prices jump, and everyone in Cali. will buy a volt...
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:31:03 PM

Raffle them off
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 9:30:49 PM

Interesting...
mstearno
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that's what they get
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