Not Logged In Log In   Sign Up   Points Leaders
Follow Us    2:20 PM

GasBuddy News Article

53
votes
Unplugged? Overheating batteries cause Chrysler to halt plug-in hybrid electric vehicle program

M-live -- -- AUBURN HILLS, MI- Chrysler Group LLC is halting its test fleets of advanced plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles due to batteries overheating.

According to the Auburn Hills-based automaker, three of the fleet’s 109 pickups equipped with plug-in hybrid powertrains sustained damage when their prototype 12.9-kWh lithium-ion propulsion batteries overheated.

“This action is being taken to build upon the lessons from the initial deployment and to concentrate resources and technical development on a superior battery,” said Michael Duhaime, global director-electrified powertrain propulsion systems, in a statement.

According to Chrysler, a different battery chemistry will be used in the projects' next phase, which will focus on grid interaction and improved safety. The complexity of the engineering


Read the Full Article

Submitted Sep 26, 2012 By: fracknsave
Category: Daily News Article Discussions > Topics Add to favorite topics  
Author Topic: Unplugged? Overheating batteries cause Chrysler to halt plug-in hybrid electric vehicle program Back to Topics
REPLIES (newest first) Post a Reply
Profile Pic
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

Posts:23,197
Points:2,265,440
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 3:50:43 AM

maybe DCJ can learn from it, return to drawing board and come up with something better.
Profile Pic
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

Posts:23,197
Points:2,265,440
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:00:11 PM

sometimes new isn't always better.
Profile Pic
E-Squirrel
Champion Author Orange County

Posts:3,419
Points:978,650
Joined:Feb 2005
Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 12:03:18 PM

tomok asks:

"...wasn't that a problem with the Volt too?"

I don't think so. I believe that the Volt problem stemmed from overheating in vehicles damaged in an accident. Like the Tesla, GM uses a circulating liquid coolant system to cool the battery. This pretty much controls the battery heat problem, unless the system or the battery itself is damaged.

Chrysler, like the Nissan Leaf, was trying to use an air-cooled, rather than a liquid cooled battery (weight and cost savings). Both Chrysler and Nissan have now experienced problems with the battery overheating, so perhaps a circulating liquid coolant system (similar to what a typical ICE vehicle uses), is the best engineering practice at today's level of technology.
Profile Pic
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

Posts:23,197
Points:2,265,440
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 6:42:48 AM

time to go back to the drawing board.
Profile Pic
BEGTWO
Champion Author Maryland

Posts:4,263
Points:1,334,195
Joined:Sep 2010
Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 7:37:08 AM

OH...NO
Profile Pic
jcdakota
Champion Author Baltimore

Posts:1,618
Points:415,920
Joined:Nov 2010
Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 5:26:56 AM

Really need to fix that before the public sales start.
Profile Pic
nb52
Champion Author Grand Rapids

Posts:10,518
Points:2,196,200
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 4:29:30 AM

Not good news for Chrysler, aye?
Profile Pic
tomok
Champion Author Portland

Posts:44,457
Points:3,001,085
Joined:Aug 2006
Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 2:09:39 AM

Overheating batteries cause Chrysler to halt plug-in hybrid electric vehicle program, wasn't that a problem with the Volt too? Now if the battery would catch fire everything would be right where it should be. Another Quality GM product! Follow what other successful car manufacturers are doing and copy them.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
Profile Pic
bearzz
Champion Author California

Posts:4,144
Points:1,050,680
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:18:41 PM

Meh . . .
Profile Pic
PissedATthePump
All-Star Author Pennsylvania

Posts:557
Points:141,795
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:17:06 PM

The next phase of the project is try out a design which won't burn up.
Profile Pic
rahcat
Champion Author Grand Rapids

Posts:5,480
Points:1,318,525
Joined:Jan 2010
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:11:27 PM

Would not own a EV.
Profile Pic
OHMS
Champion Author Orange County

Posts:16,695
Points:2,335,220
Joined:May 2005
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:09:13 PM

too advanced for its time?
Profile Pic
jrschl
Champion Author Louisville

Posts:5,734
Points:1,336,640
Joined:Jun 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:08:26 PM

Repost from a couple days ago, I do believe.
Profile Pic
judgemobile
Champion Author Ohio

Posts:10,336
Points:3,100,510
Joined:Nov 2005
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:07:50 PM

never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over.
Profile Pic
bston
Champion Author Oklahoma City

Posts:4,532
Points:1,295,900
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:01:46 PM

The auto field is advancing quickly & there will be trial & error on some.
Profile Pic
MidNJ
Champion Author New Jersey

Posts:9,741
Points:1,759,340
Joined:Sep 2009
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:01:17 PM

Interesting
Profile Pic
Ahking
Champion Author Orange County

Posts:3,618
Points:625,235
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:58:02 PM

ok that's why there are test fleets.
Profile Pic
suicyco16
All-Star Author Phoenix

Posts:635
Points:832,955
Joined:Jun 2012
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:56:28 PM

yup
Profile Pic
abcdMA
Champion Author Worcester

Posts:10,637
Points:2,215,765
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:42:30 PM

so it isn't just the Volt
Profile Pic
seeyardee
Champion Author Sacramento

Posts:11,282
Points:2,441,520
Joined:Apr 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:41:35 PM

Too bad.

Hope they get the bugs worked out soon.
Profile Pic
mrselfdestruct
Champion Author Arkansas

Posts:1,288
Points:201,100
Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:41:20 PM

Dodge has never been good at shedding heat. At least the transmissions are getting better lol
Profile Pic
boatmen
Champion Author New York

Posts:5,351
Points:1,179,810
Joined:Jan 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:37:43 PM

Forget electric Garbage just another way of sticking to you if people used them in high numbers already high electric rate's would sore higher just like fuel does
Profile Pic
DEG
Champion Author Las Vegas

Posts:20,267
Points:4,122,155
Joined:Jul 2003
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:35:25 PM

Electric vehicles have a long way to go to be ready for prime time.
Profile Pic
PoohMcGoo
Champion Author Alabama

Posts:3,772
Points:1,341,060
Joined:Dec 2010
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:34:02 PM

Before they catch on fire.
Profile Pic
clermont40miles
Champion Author Cincinnati

Posts:14,114
Points:2,421,110
Joined:Apr 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:30:52 PM

EV's are not affordable. Problems such as this are part of the cost.

Keep trying. But stop the subsidies. More money down the rathole.
Profile Pic
CCLighthouse
Champion Author Hartford

Posts:1,508
Points:318,315
Joined:Aug 2012
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:27:25 PM

I am still in love with my 13 year old gas powered Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD. Although it may be much cheaper to run (right now) I am not looking forward to electric. : (
Profile Pic
suzmar
Champion Author Texas

Posts:3,497
Points:1,394,815
Joined:Jun 2006
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:25:40 PM

This is obviously a technology that is not ready for wide-spread use.
Profile Pic
200porter
Champion Author Toronto

Posts:4,782
Points:1,195,460
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:24:18 PM

Too bad
Profile Pic
bonzoonfmb
Champion Author Florida

Posts:2,540
Points:888,110
Joined:Feb 2010
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:23:53 PM

My phone sometimes gets over 115 degrees while it is charging. Having hundreds of cells wired together and charged with a big amp quick charger will obviously create much more heat. The higher temperature that the cells are subjected to - the shorter their lifetime.

The articles says that almost half of the $125 million for the failed program came from U.S. taxpayers by way of the Department of Energy
Profile Pic
fcdriver
Champion Author Tennessee

Posts:9,906
Points:2,109,340
Joined:Sep 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:20:39 PM

back to the old drawing board
Profile Pic
mstearno
Champion Author Dayton

Posts:9,556
Points:2,269,100
Joined:Jan 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:17:45 PM

where's the shut off?
Profile Pic
WIPACKERFAN
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:11,554
Points:2,493,930
Joined:Aug 2005
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:17:02 PM

Electrics are not the future of transportation.
Profile Pic
hank1326
Champion Author Los Angeles

Posts:10,984
Points:2,340,575
Joined:Jun 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:16:09 PM

Wasting away more of our tax dolllars.
Profile Pic
DutchTreatMI
Champion Author Grand Rapids

Posts:5,756
Points:1,378,980
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:15:41 PM

This is a major problem.
Profile Pic
farn1958
All-Star Author Twin Cities

Posts:886
Points:183,385
Joined:Feb 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:11:52 PM

oh well back to the drawing board.
Profile Pic
usnerd
Veteran Author Dayton

Posts:479
Points:452,930
Joined:Jul 2012
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:11:48 PM

What is the problem with free heat?
Profile Pic
abacus44
Champion Author Toms River

Posts:6,063
Points:1,390,940
Joined:Jan 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:10:23 PM

You would think that coming late to the game, Chrysler would be able to get it right.
Profile Pic
sent4456
Champion Author Toronto

Posts:4,016
Points:2,769,930
Joined:Mar 2006
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:06:34 PM

Is about time.
Battery is not last long.
Profile Pic
serrog
Champion Author Nova Scotia

Posts:8,325
Points:2,164,240
Joined:Oct 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:06:13 PM

wow
Profile Pic
anascom
Champion Author Hamilton

Posts:1,601
Points:929,895
Joined:Feb 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:03:15 PM

another reason to make me avoid electric cars, beside its cost!
Profile Pic
wayoung56
Champion Author Alabama

Posts:5,435
Points:1,455,210
Joined:Oct 2006
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:58:17 PM

cutting costs doesn't always pan out does it???
Profile Pic
Homito
All-Star Author San Antonio

Posts:880
Points:174,700
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:57:21 PM

keep participating.
Profile Pic
Homito
All-Star Author San Antonio

Posts:880
Points:174,700
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:57:10 PM

good try.
Profile Pic
Homito
All-Star Author San Antonio

Posts:880
Points:174,700
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:57:02 PM

you learn when you make mistakes.
Profile Pic
tarheelcoastie
Champion Author Greensboro

Posts:7,979
Points:1,762,215
Joined:Jan 2009
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:56:20 PM

idiots!
Profile Pic
lucky69
Champion Author Austin

Posts:2,930
Points:1,999,295
Joined:May 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:54:45 PM

don't go cheap on the batteries and they won't be over heating so much.
Profile Pic
danreino
Champion Author Twin Cities

Posts:9,828
Points:1,838,480
Joined:Mar 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:54:36 PM

Dont go near the vehicle.
Profile Pic
brutherruther
Veteran Author Fort Worth

Posts:435
Points:238,290
Joined:Mar 2012
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:53:22 PM

Ok
Profile Pic
q2
Champion Author Alberta

Posts:4,791
Points:1,028,245
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:46:16 PM

Ok
Profile Pic
WillyG
Champion Author Cincinnati

Posts:5,788
Points:1,492,000
Joined:Aug 2005
Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:42:59 PM

Defective batteries ? How come the rest of the trucks didn't overheat ?
Post a reply Back to Topics